Is it worth it, is it professional, is it good?

Hello.

Before buying the scriptcase.

I have to develop a professional web system on management and control.

I caught a lot of attention this famous scripcase, I see it easy, fast, simple.

Can you export the codes ?, How long does the script purchase license ?, Is it free to develop ?, ie Scriptcase limits a lot on developments ?, Can I program free ?.

To export the codes, can I modify the codes from a code editor (Sublime, Notepad ++) Or Is the scriptcase limited to modifying the codes or projects?
?

It works the system after exporting the project or codes and include the designs and functionalities the scriptcase?
​It’s necessary support in case we need to do changes can’t doing with scriptcase?

Tell me your experiences of developing the scripcase. What advice can you give me?

The best is to play with the trial.

I have to develop a professional web system on management and control.

Great, SC is perfect for this.

I caught a lot of attention this famous scripcase, I see it easy, fast, simple.

:slight_smile:

Can you export the codes ?,

Yes and no. Projects are stored in SC database, and when you generate, the PHP pages/code are created.
Yes as you get a PHP project you can deploy many times as you wish, no if your intention is to modify it outside SC, read later…

How long does the script purchase license ?,

When you buy a license, include a 1 year of upgrades. Licenses are permanent, after this year, if you don’t extend/renew, you can keep using your SC license but you can’t update with patches.

Is it free to develop ?,

Not sure if I understand. You buy your license and is yours. There aren’t charges for deploy if this is what you mean. You can generate your projects and deploy as many times as you want.

ie Scriptcase limits a lot on developments ?, Can I program free ?.

What do you mean with limits a lot on developments?
You can develop free, if you have bought the license.

To export the codes, can I modify the codes from a code editor (Sublime, Notepad ++) Or Is the scriptcase limited to modifying the codes or projects?
?

Scriptcase don’t limits you to modify the generated code, but is so “criptic” and a pain to modify outside the IDE.

It works the system after exporting the project or codes and include the designs and functionalities the scriptcase?

Not sure what you ask here. Once you generate the deployment of your project, your project is as you deisgned, and you can deploy all the times you want.

​It’s necessary support in case we need to do changes can’t doing with scriptcase?

Best support is this forums, but I will not tell you to not get support, because there are things in forums we can’t solve. For example, I had a problem with my server some days ago, and support restored my SC instance without loosing anything. If you get some kind of problem with exports and backups, they know how the structure of their files works and can help you. Said that, there are others forum members don’t buy support because here there are good people that helps you for free in his spare time. Again, said that, if you buy the license through an authorised reseller, you get 3 months for free. You can try, and if you like it, extend support later.

Tell me your experiences of developing the scripcase. What advice can you give me?

Sorry but this is too long to write :smiley:
Here you will read bad experiences, neutral experiences, and good experiences.
There are differente profiles of SC users.
Some buy and use SC for simple things (a grid to extract some data from a table and so on…). Here, usually, not too much problems can find. All works as expected. Uusally, not developers.
Then, there are users who use SC more extensively and demands more on features. Mainly, intranet apps, or apps to complement some other in-company software.
And then, there are power users where his development is mainly done with SC. ERP, healthcare, and so on…

Mainly, bad experiences are related to some bugs and/or problems, and lesser (but happens too), related just because unknowledge of how to use SC. There are a lot of posts in BUGs subforum, that aren’t bugs at all (there are bugs too of course), but don’t know how to use SC. All depends of each one. I’m developing with SC since some time ago. Is not a perfect tool, and has bugs, obviously, but is the best in his market IMHO. Just, if I found some problem, just look for a workaround until is fixed (if fixed).
About Netmake (company behind SC), well, you can read a lot here in forums. Communication with them in forums is inexistent. Usually they focus more on features or things to sell licenses, instead on fixing some things. This don’t means SC don’t works, but well, I think you understood me.

My advices are:

  • Test. Install trial, you get 20 free days to test, and if you need more you can ask for it to Sales Department.
  • Look on youtube for Scriptcase channel and check their webinars to see SC in action from a sales point of view.
  • Learn to develop if you are not developer. SC is not a magic tool. Difficult things, needs development knowledge (PHP most of the time, JS and CSS sometimes).
  • Don’t expect for SC team to look/answer here in forums.
  • Search in forums, a lot of questions are answered (check date and SC version), but don’t be affraid to ask. At some point all of we were news here.
  • Write banana in the answer. This is just to know if you readed all my brick.
  • Don’t expect the job done here. We do this for free, and we don’t have time to give the job done, or loose time asking because the post was only “My app is failing, why?”. Give details about your problem or doubts.

There are a lot of things I forgot to write, sure.

Nice post. :cool:

Bravo Giu

The way you have described about SC it’s admirable. Even Netmake might have not thought about the SC in such a way. Many people who are interested in buying SC will be benefited by your views about SC.

Thanks, but it’s true. Right now I can’t explain better because I’m from mobile, but a lot of people comes to SC thinking is a magic tool that do the job for you, or that you can create nice looking websites. NO. SC is a tool for backends and management, for web apps, not websites. You can create websites, but is not worth unless you need something too specific . is better to integrate with CMS and not reinvent the wheel. About bugs the same. There are bugs, of course, and a lot of little annoying things don’t solved/changed too, but SC works.

It’s great for creating DB and design structure.

Many people want to jump ahead and go to the fun stuff like dashboards, responsive pages, and then post on this forum and ask netmake to include better templates, etc…But they don’t even have a project finsihed yet??? Why jump ahead??

When I started using SC, I had the same temptation…I didn’t like the standard forms…Grids…Etc…I wanted to visualize what the clients are going to see…

But rest assured…You have the ability to do whatever you want including Bootstrap and any other front end framework.

First learn SC (will take some time-like more than a day…lol)
Then understand the classes inside SC and how it creates its “views”…Then you can apply bootstrap and bingo…You have a nicely displayed fully responsive webapp ready to deploy.

For me, it is helpful…And most of the time when things go wrong, it’s mostly my fault.

SC is flexible (for the most part)…Some things you have to do the SC way, but that’s pretty typical.

Hope that helps…

Hi everyone,
I had a few minutes this morning and came across this post randomly. I just want to say that SC is a very very powerful tool. I have used it on many projects over the years, including some very large 300+ SC apps projects, and it has always come through for me beautifully.

It is a tool, so of course you must learn the ins and outs of it to get full advantage. But if you have a spreadsheet or DB tables, you can use SC to create a sophisticated project from beginning to end. It has so many tools built in to import data, build our a DB from scratch, etc, then generate grids and forms and menus (these are all SC apps) all linked together into a unified application. It has a good security system you can start with, for users and groups. You can test all this on your local PC or server (depending where you installed the SC IDE). You can then pretty easily deploy your project to almost any webserver or hosting company. It creates the PHP and other code you will need, and almost every host will work.

That said, to make a professional system, you must do your own research and study as well. The system has to be designed well, with the behind the scenes things thought out. SC can be used to build just about any kind of business system IMHO. It is certainly getting better at doing things in a more and more mobile friendly “app” way too.

Every system and company has its history and quirks. SC has a global market, but that also seems to stretch the company’s resources to its maximum limit at times, especially around new release time. I appreciate how hard the SC team must be working now with version 9 coming out. There is also the issue of all the communications in various languages going on, it must be very challenging for the SC team. I highly suggest watching the YouTube webinars that Marcia has done over the years. She does a terrific job explaining the features.

As someone earlier in this thread wisely said, learn the basics first and then go into the cooler parts of it. I would work conservatively in that way, so that you know how your system is working at all times. The worst thing you can do to spoil a professional project, is to overextend features and have things break or work in some unanticipated way.

I am constantly reviewing the systems out there that do this type of mobile friendly web-app development. I am a Computer Engineer and just love programming and internet development in general. But I really appreciate being as high-level as I possibly can, to make my development projects RAD. I can program an HTML/JS/Ajax button or a mysql database grid, but I don;t want to if I can just tell something like SC to do the low-level stuff. My value-added is doing the work-flow or business logic of an application. Believe me when I say this: SC generate a great platform for my extensive programming in the many event scripts. The combination of both the generated and custom programming logic make the things I do ‘professional’.

Good luck everyone who reads this with your projects.
Peace,
Jamie

Hi Jamie,
Nice to see you here back on the forum. I can highly agree with your opinion. In addition I would to add that when SC is bringing out new versions like now version 9, you should use the version carefully as SC in general has not a great reputation when releasing major versions. So use it to get familiar with the new features, but wait a while to be sure that the major issues are fixed.

Wise words from you Albert :slight_smile:

Those of us with mature projects and experiences from past releases are very conservative with ‘converting’ right away. I think they allow for running a version 8.x and version 9 side by side. That is the way I will work - when I get time to actually install 9.

It does look cool, so I am happy with the goals they have set. I can see things that will help me. But I can’t afford to upgrade with out extensive testing, both by the community at large and by me later. When stable, I find the SC environment very consistent.

I also warn anyone who has built custom code around any of the Third Party library code - be sure to check which version and what changes may have happened between version 8 and 9.

I am also interested to see how much faster PHP 7 will be when running my app on it. But that will also open up potential coding issues, even in my custom event scripts. Test test test :slight_smile:

I can’t afford to make my app users the beta testers for me - must be seamless.
Peace,
Jamie

PS Doesn’t look like they have made a SC9 are in the forum yet???

Wise words from you Albert :slight_smile:

Those of us with mature projects and experiences from past releases are very conservative with ‘converting’ right away. I think they allow for running a version 8.x and version 9 side by side. That is the way I will work - when I get time to actually install 9.

It does look cool, so I am happy with the goals they have set. I can see things that will help me. But I can’t afford to upgrade with out extensive testing, both by the community at large and by me later. When stable, I find the SC environment very consistent.

I also warn anyone who has built custom code around any of the Third Party library code - be sure to check which version and what changes may have happened between version 8 and 9.

I am also interested to see how much faster PHP 7 will be when running my app on it. But that will also open up potential coding issues, even in my custom event scripts. Test test test :slight_smile:

I can’t afford to make my app users the beta testers for me - must be seamless.
Peace,
Jamie

​PS Doesn’t look like they have made a SC9 are in the forum yet???